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Malcolm Khross
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.06 20:00:00 -
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Svetlana Scarlet wrote:And Admiral Yanala should know better than to comment on civilian affairs. It is not the place of the Caldari Navy to interfere in internal corporate matters -- she can have whatever opinions she likes, but as long as she wears the uniform she is to keep them to herself. She is an instrument of the CEP and the naval command structure, and should remember her place. Frankly, if there is anyone committing a crime here, it is her.
This is consequential from the current environment of the State. I have stated previously that Executor Heth's current position was founded upon popular sentiment from among the Caldari and the Megacorporations, coupled with pressing need at the time and very clever political maneuvering.
The consequence of this reality is that Heth's continued existence as the Executor of the State depends on maintaining the popular support of key elements of the Caldari State, among them: The Navy. This leads to far a more vocal populace and service within the State than in prior times. These outbreaks of protests, riots and public statements are nothing more than symptoms of the State as it currently exists.
Workers become disgruntled and start a protest, this threatens to endanger the popularity of the Executor. These protests are quelled. Corporate executives become disillusioned and resign, this threatens the popularity of the Executor. These resignations are cast in a negative light by the Executor and his task force, suggesting advancement and reward for continued service and loyalty coupled with a vocal and public statement about the continued support of the Navy and the capability and validity of the Executor. These serve to increase the popularity of the Executor.
What the admiral has done is a crime in the tradition of the Caldari, yes. It is a crime borne as a symptom of many far greater crimes, however. ~Malcolm Khross
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Malcolm Khross
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.07 02:38:00 -
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Svetlana Scarlet wrote: How much longer will our leaders sit idly by and allow this torture of our ideals to continue?
I suggest to you that they aren't just sitting idly by, but like anything worth seeing, you're going to have to look beyond the surface. ~Malcolm Khross
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Malcolm Khross
Wiyrkomi Tactical Response Directive
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Posted - 2013.03.07 12:37:00 -
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Svetlana Scarlet wrote: I have been waiting for five years for them to find their collective backbone -- how much longer must I wait before they will do what must be done? How many more of our Caldari brothers and sisters must die to preserve an illegal regime that is dragging our State to its doom?
Questions I cannot answer, nor will I strive to do so. I would state, however, that I do not disagree with you on principle. I should state that I hold your dedication and conviction in high regard and my statements and questions to you are not borne of malice or disagreement.
Svetlana Scarlet wrote:Perhaps you have lost your empathy for those not lucky enough to benefit from capsuleer technology, but I have not.
You do me a great dishonor with this accusation and I would urge you to pay closer attention to my service record and history, which would both strongly testify otherwise. I have done, and will continue to do, a great deal for non-capsuleers.
Svetlana Scarlet wrote:It is time for someone to put Tibus Heth in the gibbet and show others who would follow in his wake what happens to would-be tyrants and warmongers who put their own aggrandizement over the good of the State.
A mountain topples most easily when it is chiseled away at its foundation patiently. When the time comes for the mountain to fall, its fall can be guided by the direction of the chiseling, its toppling controlled to a single instance. If the mountain is instead shattered by excessive force, remnants of that mountain are tossed about and scattered around, its fall is uncontrolled and its toppling is chaotic. Which of these do you believe to be most in-line with the Caldari spirit? ~Malcolm Khross
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Malcolm Khross
Wiyrkomi Tactical Response Directive
640
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Posted - 2013.03.07 12:40:00 -
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Nomistrav wrote: Addendum: I'm curious as to how many would support the ideal that Intaki should be removed from the CEWPA legislation... Then again, I am even more curious as to how many would support the ideal that Luminaire be added...
It would behoove you to contact the Intaki Liberation Front and the Intaki Prosperity Initiative. ~Malcolm Khross
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Malcolm Khross
Wiyrkomi Tactical Response Directive
640
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Posted - 2013.03.07 14:21:00 -
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Knoot Enderas wrote: It is entirely plausible that Federal black ops are behind the resignations and the incident involving Kaalakiota Corporation factory workers.
Possible, not probable.
Knoot Enderas wrote:The Executor remains popular with working Caldari Citizens, and there is absolutely no reason for him to turn launchers on his own people.
The presence of multiple protests doesn't suggest to you that Heth's "popularity" is somewhat suspect at this time? ~Malcolm Khross
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Malcolm Khross
Wiyrkomi Tactical Response Directive
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Posted - 2013.03.07 14:49:00 -
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Knoot Enderas wrote: None of this suggests that the Executor has lost his popularity with the ordinary people, as opposed to the whimsical support of rootless cosmopolitan capsuleers and high-level corporate executives who profited most when he united the State, reconquered our home world and struck blow after blow against the Federation.
Right then. I suppose you're reading what's presented and I'm reading what's written.. ~Malcolm Khross
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Malcolm Khross
Wiyrkomi Tactical Response Directive
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Posted - 2013.03.07 15:03:00 -
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Knoot Enderas wrote:Either that, or I'm able to look beyond the confines of my well-furnished pod. The recent events in the Caldari state are an example of unrest among a small, ultra-rich elite which feels that some of its privileges may be threatened. It is not a popular revolt against the Executor.
You are correct, at least in part, this is not the Caldari way. ~Malcolm Khross
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Malcolm Khross
Wiyrkomi Tactical Response Directive
640
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Posted - 2013.03.07 15:19:00 -
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Knoot Enderas wrote:Khross-haan,
I agree entirely that the "armed uprising" suggested by Ms. Luftschreck and other capsuleers is not the Caldari way. The Amarr Empire has the divine right, the Gallente have mob rule and the state has Corporate Law. Differences of opinion and differing interests involving the megacorps and the CPD must be resolved by and within the confines of the law.
For this reason, I find the anti-Provist "rebelliousness" that is put on display by some capsuleers extremely irritating. We are Caldari! We do not write petitions or wave banners when we want to get something done. We sue the other party in a court of corporate law!
As a humble exchange pilot in the service of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris, it is not for me to say how these issues should be resolved, nor is it the business of other Caldari capsuleers.
At least we continue to converse with mutual respect to one another, despite our apparent disagreements.
We are in complete agreement regarding armed uprising. However, I would touch on your final point about the Caldari way being to sue others in a court of corporate law, particularly since one of the articles I linked to you was of that exact procedure being single-handedly disregarded by the wave of an executive order.
I would also disagree that it is not the business of Caldari capsuleers to concern ourselves with matters of the State, I would argue that it is our duty to do so. We who claim to be loyal to the Caldari and to serve the State have a duty and responsibility to serve in the best interests of the State and the Caldari people and to devote our efforts and resources to this service in the proper spirit of the Caldari.
The verbal uprising is perhaps not the most fitting way and true to our ideals, but these are strange and precarious times for us as a people and as a nation.
Bright stars and clear horizons, mate. ~Malcolm Khross
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Malcolm Khross
Wiyrkomi Tactical Response Directive
640
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Posted - 2013.03.07 15:22:00 -
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BloodBird wrote:
I would like to remind you that the Fact the Federation is attacking you is your own damn fault and how you should keep in mind your part in this whole mess, but I suspect you know this already and, as stated, are simply saying what won't get you smacked over the back of your head by your fellow provist thugs.
I would like to remind you that the Federation attacks of its own discretion, unless you need the Caldari to fire your own guns for you?
BloodBird wrote:Freedom of Speech - you just have to love being reminded of how great it is, when you see clear examples of people who don't have it.
I find it amusing that you suspect a capsuleer wouldn't be capable of free speech and free thought. Even workers in the State have free speech, or have you missed the news lately?
~Malcolm Khross
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Malcolm Khross
Wiyrkomi Tactical Response Directive
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Posted - 2013.03.10 17:56:00 -
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Admiral Yanala-haani,
It is somewhat surprising to see you make your presence here known but it is certainly an honor. Your stalwart support of the State and the Caldari people serves as an example of how we are to conduct ourselves, even should disagreements exist between us.
May the Winds bring profit and success to your continued efforts.
~M. Khross ~Malcolm Khross
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Malcolm Khross
Wiyrkomi Tactical Response Directive
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Posted - 2013.03.10 18:53:00 -
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Sakura Nihil wrote:My, aren't you arrogant? Thinking yourself so important as to be able to tell someone that they're not "a true Caldari" because they disagree with your worldview.
If you feel so strongly about this, perhaps you should turn your attention to Executor Heth. He and his loyal forces seem to be putting both at risk right about now.
I think you'll find that what was actually stated was that anyone willfully putting either the Caldari people or the corporate assets that secure the provision and prosperity of the Caldari people at risk will be dealt with under Caldari law. "Forfeiting the right to be called Caldari" is a less-than-direct way to suggest that citizenship is forfeited by terrorists and traitors.
As for your final statement, the Admiral has already publicly and clearly stated that the Navy fully supports Executor Heth and believes he is acting in the best interests of the State and the Caldari people.
~Malcolm Khross
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Malcolm Khross
Wiyrkomi Tactical Response Directive
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Posted - 2013.03.11 16:50:00 -
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With respect Admiral and Scarlet-haani,
This conversation has degenerated into personal insults and disregard. It is obvious you both are passionate about your viewpoints, let us not dishonor ourselves in public further by continuing this display. These discussions are the material for private boardrooms and officer's quarters not an intergalactic circus.
Our history is filled with strong disagreement and differences, the original establishment of our great State held this to be truth when it was founded upon the principles of decentralized leadership and competition of ideals. Our unifying factor being our stalwart belief that steel sharpens steel, that our differences grind against one another and hone each of us to better serve to reach our goals, that opposition breeds courage and determination, that competition deters stagnation and complacency. This has not changed and you have both displayed it in practice.
However, we do this privately so that we do not become distracted by public appeal or swayed by public opinion. We present to others our unified front, strengthened by the determination and prowess we have gained from our differences.
Our opinions of the Executor aside, we each have a duty as Caldari loyal to our people and to the State (whatever you believe the State should be, it is our national home) to serve in the capacities we are able and strive ever forward to the betterment of our people. Let our differences sharpen us, not shatter us.
~Malcolm Khross
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Malcolm Khross
Wiyrkomi Tactical Response Directive
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:12:00 -
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Allow me to offer you a form of response, Inhonores.
The Caldari do favor organization and hierarchy, we also value prudent silence and wisdom. However, every member of the State may express themselves to a degree based on their station. This is not "freedom of speech" as the Gallente would understand it, nor is it what apparently many express as a positive thing here.
Within the State, there are expectations of every individual. Social expectations, expectations of decorum, duty, sacrifice, obligation and even speech and silence. These expectations may vary from position to position and person to person, but we are raised knowing what the expectations surrounding us are and when our position changes, we are made aware of the expectations that change.
The blathering about you see displayed on these discussions is largely due in part to the lack of immersion capsuleers have with the State and the lack of established expectations on capsuleers in general. ~Malcolm Khross
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